How to Spot Clueless Idiotic Human Spam Comments

by SBA · 5 comments

It started quite innocently with a short and sweet comment on one of our blog posts. But after a few weeks, it turned into a curious battle of sorts between post author (SBA) and a particularly clueless spammer. Normally, there's no contest between spam bots and spam defender plugins that stop them at the door. But human and sometimes clever spammers are another story. Their innocent comments can sneak right past the best spam bouncer. This post examines the frustration and surprising resolve on both sides of the battle.

The First Encounter with the Clueless Spammer

SBA:Welcome. Your comment was put in spam because you’re using keywords instead of a personal name. The url you left was not a blog — are you setting up a business blog? You might also consider using a gravatar.

Clueless Idiot

Clueless: I am working as a SEO I had just start it. I am new in this business. Promoting site its my work I am working for my client . I know its a business site its not my mistake. My client want this keyword up for site so, I am using. I would be very pls if you give me link with this keyword. Pls reply me here. Thanks.

SBA: I’m usually a sympathetic person, but not in this case. Your job is to promote your site, mine is to provide an interactive reader community around blogging (human and technical sides). Readers want to visit commentator blogs as part of social networking; they use google search for products and services. We welcome your comments on your own time, using a blank url or better yet, why not start your own free Blogger or WordPress blog.

Human Spammers Can be Sneaky

I guess I told her! But was that the end of her visits? A few days later, she left another compliment which shows she did not read how much ham is in your comments? :

Clueless: I am very much concern with you my friend. These are really unique one and absolutely helpful thanks for these tips.

Of course, she still had no gravatar image and used the same spammy keyword name (Landscapers Brisbane)! So I removed the link to her client's commercial site. Subsequent comments went to spam. I copied a few from email notices to illustrate her persistence. Also, how the mood can change from sweet to sneaky "wolf in sheep's clothing."

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Clueless started to get clever and imitate real comments – by copying them. Naturally, we let those stay in spam. She copied part of a reply I made a month earlier to another reader's comment. The excerpt made absolutely no sense, except as a way of bypassing spam detection. However, the smarter spammers will use phrases that seem to be part of the dialog.

Another gem on the same post: "hello ….it has been the great comment." Who knows how many other attempts there were? I can only hope her boss or client finds the company's name in a Google search pointing to this post. Okay, I sort of feel sorry that someone has to earn a living this way. She has been "going above the call of duty." Maybe it's a cry for help: "Somebody stop me, please!" But in the end, she is consciously abusing countless blogs out there.

Why Do Otherwise Intelligent Beings Spam Our Conversations?

"Comment Spam ... is done by automatically posting random comments or promoting commercial services to blogs [and other websites that accept and display] hyperlinks submitted by visitors. [It}...artificially increases the site's search engine ranking..., increasing the number of potential visitors and paying customers." - Wikipedia

In the case of human spammers, I'd change "automatically" to "mindlessly."

You might wonder what's in it for the human spammer. Don't they know many comments are "nofollow"? That means major search engines don't give the links any importance in ranking the spammer's site. Their Google Page Rank is 1. BUT... as Mr. I pointed out,

"They can be used to hide link building techniques from people using Yahoo Site Explorer."

Yahoo's Site Explorer ignores "no follow." For the site in question, Google shows 9 authority linkbacks, while Yahoo's tool gives the client a list of 750 inbound links – many from article directories and generic topics like photography. However, there are spam comments.

No blogger wants to cut off discussion from folks who have blogs or write on business websites. I can see how some of the comments with follow links sound "normal." But others just don't fool owners who read their comments and look at the link's url. Several blogs about blogging contributed many links to a landscaping site. One was on a post called "100 outgoing links could hurt your blog." Clueless wrote, "It very good info regarding mater. Its really helpful I will mind it." How ironic is that?

What's a Blogger to Do?

Make no mistake; this is a real battle, if only of wits! I for one will not let human parasites feed on my blog posts. Here are a few ways to detect and defend against such nonsense that can pass the best spam filters.

  1. Read your comments.
    Most of us do that to reply to intelligent and genuinely complimentary comments. We know that many bloggers are promoting their blogs with links, but that's the name of the game. We are not competitors, so we can share readers. By reading comments you know when they have not read the post and give you canned text.
  2. Check out links.
    Be quick to unlink spammy keyword names and give the person the benefit of the doubt the first time. Salvage halfway decent comments while protecting your readers.
  3. Don't be too nice.
    Would you be nice to a mosquito after shooing him away a few times? Remember, your first responsibility is the integrity of your blog. Comments and links are part of that. Bad links can hurt.
  4. Publish Comment Policy Guidelines.
    Here's an excerpt of guidelines on OneCoolSite:

    * Commercial links, post links, signature links, etc. : ...all links are subject to review and may be removed prior to posting. ...if I believe that they are just link dropping in an attempt to divert readers to their own blog post(s) or to game search engine results, then I... delete the links. Example: Anchor text – If a keyword is entered into the name field rather than a name I will either break the link and post the comment or I will delete the comment.

Summary

Remember, every comment becomes part of your blog, is indexed and read by future visitors. It's your responsibility to make sure they don't click on a junk link or read gibberish. They might conclude you're "asleep on the job" or don't pay attention to the community aspect of blogging. But we know you care, and now you know what to do! On Guard!


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About Writer [Blogging With Success]About Author SBA is a web designer and co-founder of BloggingWithSuccess.net. She publishes BPWebNews a place for Blogspot tips and tricks. You can also find her on Twitter. Read SBA's other posts. She's also published a couple of guest posts.

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Sebastyne October 7, 2009 at 5:34 PM

It seems like such a big trouble to go through for just one link that most likely will be deleted, doesn’t it? It would be a lot easier and far more efficient to just read the post, at least enough of it to actually make a reasonable comment – really it’s not rocket science. Unfortunately, when the SEO person who is promoting a company in Australia is not a native speaker, things get tricky. If they cannot even form a sentence in a way that it makes sense, it is very likely they can’t understand what the post is about. What do we learn about this? Don’t hire people who can’t speak your language to promote your business, unless you hire them to promote your business in their country. Common sense, really.

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Mr. I October 7, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Well, the real problem is that people do not care about English of person they are hiring!
They care about lowest price!

I have seen this a lot as a freelancer! People look for crazy prices like “$1 for every 500 words”! And they get people to work at these prices. I am still clueless how those “content writers” make up living. That’s just an example. There’s a huge market on web for such work. Sadly, people prefer quantity over quality and this the root of this problem!

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Matt - Zero 2 Hero October 10, 2009 at 12:29 AM

I think its very important to post a ‘Commenting Guidelines’ somewhere on the page. Especially once your blog reaches a certain level where its harder to keep tabs on every person commenting.

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timethief October 18, 2009 at 9:47 AM

I Have found that posting a comment policy on my sites and sticking to it has been a good move t6o make. I no longer have to ddiscuss and debate why comments made were not posted. Thus frees up my time so I can use it on research and blogging. Also after I posted a comment policy on my blogs I found that those who were using keywords in the name field dropped from several every day to zero in a 3 week time span.

If I did not take the time to read my comments and check out the links on my personal blog I would not have detected those that were auto-generated by software, and those that lead back to casinos, drug and flesh peddling sites. I get at least 20 such such comments every day and they all end up in the spam filter as I have educated both Akismet and Defensio to select them out.

BTW I’d like to second what Mr. I says there are obviously many people out there who are only looking for the lowest price possible when hiring comment writers. How pathetic.

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Brix October 18, 2009 at 8:24 PM

Though I would like to be very lenient when it comes to implementing “Commenting Guidelines” on my blog but that would make my readers feel they are obliged to reply in a certain way. I’ll read every comment in my blog may it be intellectual, silly, or borderline spam.

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